Posted by: Kay in Gtown | 2009/08/08

Attending conference

Dear CS
A birdie told me you’ ve been at a conference, hope it was interesting!

Seroquel has worked astoundingly well for my (horribly treatment-resistant) bipolar depression, so much so, that I feel ready to tackle life outside my front door again -yay! I’ m also on Lamictin, Wellbutrin and tapering off from EfexorXR 300mg, now at 75mg.

I think there is problem with the Seroquel, though. I’ ve never understood the difference between restless legs syndrome and akathisia, (can you give me any idea?) but I have one of them. It comes on every night about 90mins after I have taken my dose (400mg), and is gone by morning. It’ s really bad  I bolt out of bed, there is no way I can lie still, I have to pace. I get anxious bordering on panicky and feel as if I have to get out of my body to get away from it. The muscles in my legs particularly, feel as if I have to cut them open to release the tension inside. I kick and pound my hands on my calves. No matter how tired I am, I am way too restless and anxious to do anything but pace, forget sleep. It’ s truly ghastly.

It’ s been about a week, at first fairly mildly, but the last two nights unbearably so. I researched a bit and read that anti-histamines can be used for this. I scouted around and found some cinnarazine and took 2 –  which mercifully made it go away. The following day I tried to get diphenhydramine from the pharmacy (which is what was really recommended in what I read) but it isn’ t made in SA, so I was given Allergex. But this made no difference even after 4 tabs. Then I added one cinnarizine in desperation and after a while it remitted and I finally fell asleep.

I feel hesitant to disturb my pdoc over the weekend, (and silly that I didn’ t phone last week, but it wasn’ t this bad.) Do you think it is safe to keep taking cinnarizine until I can speak to him on Monday? Or can I reduce or stop the Seroquel? Or is it reasonable to try and get hold of him today? I’ ve read that the early appearance of akathisia is associated with earlier onset of tardive dyskinesia (yeah, I know, a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing...) and that and the prospect of a repeat performance tonight is really scaring me. I’ m afraid to take tonight’ s dose. This feeling has to be the MOST awful side-effect there is. In the past it has always has been a deal-breaker, the med gets the boot, but Seroquel works SO WELL I’ m in a bind. Is this dangerous? –  should I be stopping immediately?

And I guess I am also asking if this is serious enough to disturb my pdoc today?

As always, thank you very much.

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Yep, interesting and useful other than atrocious catering at the Southern Suns Grayston.
Pleased to hear that the revised medications, including Seroquel, is proving more effective.
Restless Legs syndrome arises on its own, without you needing to take any meds at all to achieve that status ( and there's a recently released med that may help relieve it ). Akathisia is a drug side-effect, and doesn't only affect leegs, and may include an irritating sense of restlessness apart from any muscle movements.
From your description, the symptom may be relatyed to peak blood levels of the drug, and maybe your doc can work out a plan for smaller doses taken more than once a day, maintaining a slightly lower avaerage level, without the main peak that may cause the discomfort.
Diphenhydramine , originally sold as Benadryl, is on sale over the counter, sometimes as a sleep aid, in a number of countries. In South Africa it was I hear sold as Betasleep, and as a Schedule 2 med. I haven't heard of it being unavailable. It was produced by Restan laboratories. And if the cinarrizine rids you of the symptom, couldn't your doc provide a prescription for that ? Allergex contains chlorpheniramine
As for TD, well, many instances of TD may start with Akathisia among other symptoms, but most cases of Akathisia do not progress to TD.
Cinarrizine through till Tuesday may not be a problem. But this is one of those annoying situations, where only your doc can be sure whether you should call him, and only after calling and bothering him, might you be certain there was no need to do so.
If Seroquel is helping so much, let's rather find a way to minimize the symptom by dosage re-arangements, and to get rid of the symptom with a med that relieves it.

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