Are some people just evil?
Last updated: Friday, February 10, 2012 PrintFaced with a case like the Modimolle murder, we tend to fall into circular reasoning. Finding such awful deeds impossible to understand, we call them "sick", though actually sick people probably do such things less often than the guy next door. But then we may too easily assume that the perpetrator must have some specific illness.
The alternative explanation surprisingly rarely considered, is that some people are simply evil? A great psychiatrist, Karl Menninger, once wrote a book called "Whatever happened to sin?" It's become unfashionable to speak of sin, evil, wickedness, or other such terms - the Archbishop seems not to include them in urging us not to speak badly of monstrous people. Such words and concepts are not cheery enough for many modern churchmen. Similarly, we don't hear of atonement, or repentance.
At this stage, comments can only be based on media reports, and far more reliable information should become available as the trial progresses. We don't yet know enough about the detailed background, previous relationships and behaviours of the accused in this case, but in time we will.
The meek can also murder
Many nasty murders are committed by previously meek and mild seeming people. And many manage by their people skills (grotesque as it is to think of these behaviours in that way) to hide their basic nature for many years before it is revealed. A recent documentary reminded me of a case which has long interested me. Christie, the killer at 10 Rillington Place, was a serial killer unrecognised for years, to the point of having the husband of one of his victims convicted and hanged for murder, even testifying against him, while other bodies were tucked away around his home. Until he eventually went too far and got found out, nobody thought ill of him.
Before someone reveals themselves by a dreadful deed, they may reveal their essentially contemptuous attitude towards others in other ways, consistent but less dramatic. The difference is one of degree rather than of kind.
People with psychopathic/sociopathic personality disorder may show a consistent pattern of selfish behaviour with a disregard for the feelings and needs of others They may show this in a variety of ways, including cruelty towards animals, from childhood. Eventually, a situation may arise in which they feel sufficiently furious, especially when someone they expect to be tractable defies them or won't do as they wish, that they may act out violently towards that person. Reports that he may have had a "hit-list" of people he considered harming is not surprising, and would make it hard for him in court to avoid a presumption that his actions were pre-meditated.
Rehabilitation often impossible
Rehabilitation is more rare than society might like to admit, and containment, protecting others from any further incidents, would be more realistic.
It's not all that uncommon for such a person to force others to participate directly in attacks on the victim. Criminals often enrol others to assist, by coercion or persuasion; forcing them to do so is odd, and usually wouldn't be practical or useful. There are unpleasant racist elements in this one - maybe the alleged perpetrator couldn't think of anything more awful for the victim than being raped by multiple black men, and if so, he couldn't do that on his own. It's interesting that instead of fleeing, he hung around close to the scene of the crime.
People with psychopathic tendencies do see others as tools, to be used as needed. In a sense he may have used the son as a tool. He may not have actively or specifically wished harm to the young man, but recognised that forcing him to plead for his life, and then allegedly killing him, within his mother's hearing, would be an appalling experience for the mother. The alleged perpetrator seems to have taken great care to cause maximum suffering to his ex-wife, even at the cost of leaving her as a witness against him. He may have accepted his fate as a price worth paying to hurt her so badly.
Why didn't he just kill her? Because then her suffering would immediately be over. It seems he wanted her to live, and to remember what happened. In my earlier studies of torture used in coercive interrogation, I pointed out that when, uncommonly, this was thought of at all, the PTSD and other post-traumatic psychological damage it caused was usually thought of as an unfortunate side effect. Yet often it was the desired primary effect, and that may be so in this case.
(Professor M.A. Simpson, aka CyberShrink, February 2011)
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I do
I do think some people just have no feelings for other people at all and that makes them inherently evil. they will do anything to promote their own interests. It's shocking, because they walk among us.
Evil people
Why do we seem to specialise in this type of guy in SA?
No judging
Until we know the full circumstances of a person's life, we can't really judge whether they are good or evil. And even then, who are we to judge?
Criminals are damaging our communities
Law abiding citizens build communities. Each & every person in the community brings something to the table. Then you get scum that come along & destroy the very thing we have worked hard to build. People who commit serious/violent crimes no longer have the right to part of our community & they should be removed from humanity instead of wasting communal resources (taxes) on them. We have a small percentage of our population ruining it for the rest of us. It's time to start getting rid of them.
In other words ....
There are builders and there are breakers on this earth. Some people will just take for their own benifit. Be it a sandwitch, a promotion, or a life. Others will ensure that they give back more than what they take while alive. I believe there are many people capable of murder but their fear has prevented them. It's probably genetics. I'm sure we have all met someone who is more than capable of murder, we just don't know it. Good people need to protect each other and keep building.
I'm with the genetics argument
How does someone rape and murder a child? What part is missing in that persons brain that would normally indicate it to be wrong and disgusting? I believe you cannot rehabilitate these people, it's built in, it's genetics. Victims of cicumstance, their upbringing? Erm, no, often these people grow up as normal children. Kids get bullied every day at school, not all of them shoot it up. Chris Rock, being only a comic, does make a point: What happened to crazy? When did we stop diagnosing crazy?
Evil People
I did a Rhino anti-poaching job and met a very evil woman, bit of a long story but I feel it is worth reading ...
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10 Rillington Place.
I read this book sometime way back during the 1960's when still in school. even at that age it was a frightening story as to how a person can and will go so far as to kill and still live a relatively quiet life
every man
we all have the ability for heinous acts, sometimes something happens to us and it is a trigger and we cant help themselves after that. And sometimes these triggers become more sensitive due to our upbrining and experiences. I find it hard to believe that people are just born evil. Then again after the first trimester the foetus does also take in the experiences via the mother and already hav behaviors affected when born. Tho even that is based on influences
No God, no evil
How can there be evil if there is no God. No darkness.No light. People so often accept that there is evil out there, and rightly so, but will not accept the reality of God. So if there is no God, what is evil? www.torquetalk.nl
People grow influence by evil then become evil .
You won't find someone more evil than the Greek owner of VT Marble & Granite , he use people and dismiss them like someone chewing and spitting a bubble gum and never giving the Ui19 form for them to get some money from the UIF + been polluting the environment for many years with the toxic slurry from the machines , dumping it into the storm drains , then when the inspector from the municipality come bribe him with
R 20000 , then in 6 months do it again ,that slurry is very toxic.
Money talks
the reality of why things are
The bible states that man is sinful and evil and progressed to such as state that God destroyed the earth leaving Naoh and family to repopulate the earth.
Today we have people with all kinds of physical and mental problems that have resulted from sin. Inbreeding, drink, drugs ect all destroy our genetic makeup resulting in a degenerate human being. As evolutionists say, we have evolved. But not towards the better, but rather towards a genetic swamp of trash producing monsters
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