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Posted by: Brendan | 2012/04/28

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Frustrated

Guys I have a burning question which I have not talked about much since I came back to this forum about two months ago. Here is a bit of a conversation I had on an American Hiv forum. Teak is an Hiv/Aids educator, and is Hiv positive himself since the eighties. Am I being ridiculous by asking this question? Why does NOBODY seem to be interested in the fact that somebody who has had unprotected sex for YEARS with an Hiv positive person has never tested positive, ever. Shouldn''t that raise a few questions? I had asked a question in a " wrong"  forum and I saw a post where somebody in almost the exact situation as myself posted a question, but he was just shot down. I persisted on his thread.
Here it is:

Teak am I in the right place now? This guy sounds just like me. What is the answer? Why dont our woman test positive when we do?

To: Brendan69
Because they never got infected. It''s not hard to understand. Be thankful and start using condoms before you do infect her.

To: Teak
Your answer is very unsatisfactory. I can almost see you already gathering the tar and feathers because my case brings doubt to the whole Hiv/Aids hypothesis. Either I am negative but something in my body is telling the instrument Im positive or my ex is positive but cannot be picked up as such. What I am saying is that we need more research into how testing is done. I am convinced that some people are getting the death sentence when they are not guilty. Can the CDC answer my question? Will they even be prepared to investigate my case?

To: Brendan69
We don''t deal with denialists.

To: Teak
I''m not a denialist. I am hiv positive and I am worried about my health as much as anybody else who is hiv positive. I do not deny that Aids exists.
I have lost personal friends to Aids related illnesses and I have two young daughters who may be at risk if the tests are not picking them up as positive. (Hence my questioning the validity of the tests in the first place) All I am saying is that as far as I know, I have an unusual case, and I am not satisfied with the answer that if I had continued having unprotected sex with my ex wife that she would have eventually become positive. Maybe she is already. Maybe my children are. But they KEEP TESTING NEGATIVE! Surely someone, somewhere would be interested to know why.

Last November my 6 year old got shingles. We all panicked thinking it was Aids related. The Hiv tests came back negative. She had Chicken Pox when she was about 11 months old and the virus just reactivated. But WHAT IF she is Hiv positive? (I just asked what if I am negative because its the other side of the same coin)

I am going mad thinking about this. Is there anyone, just one person who is willing to look at this a little deeper?


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Posted by: anon | 2012/04/30

2 of my x boyfriends hav died of aids. I am currently involved with an hiv positive man. Both my kids are hiv negative. I am so consumed by this that i test every 3months but they never pick anything up. I was always a sickly child and lived on steroids and some other medication my mother got through the NGO she was working for.then bang after my first born i recovered from all of them.With the last one i decided not to risk so when trying for a baby i used Prep.....boy did i get sick.I was hospitalised twice and the doctor decided to take me off it immediately.He advised that my body rejects ARV''s. they have asked me to assist in clinicals bt my mother who is a health professional refuses me to partake. She is paranoid as if she is hiding something. ive decided to let sleeping dogs lie and count myself lucky..........

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Posted by: Brendan | 2012/04/29

Yes Anon thats exactly the reason why. The fact that after being infected for maybe 16yrs and never been seriously ill and my ex who I made love to for almost 7yrs without condoms who never became positive led me straight to the denialist camp searching for the truth. Why didnt you mention this before?

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Posted by: Brendan | 2012/04/29

Im on this American forum now and they have a very different understanding. Let me just say this straight. Americans are probably amongst the most stupidest people on the planet. Go to Medhelp Hiv Prevention Forum and see for yourselves. They say somebody who has never had exposure should NEVER have an Hiv test in case they suffer undue psychological trauma because of a false-positive. Duh! But Im no longer punting the denialist viewpoint. I think I have found what I have been looking for. Some people will get hiv, some people wont. I am infected, my ex and children aren''t. I owe it to my daughters,Tamia and Kiara, to look after myself now, and be the best Dad I can ever be! Will let you know when I start my meds and if I dream about man eating vaginas! Lol!

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Posted by: Anon | 2012/04/29

CCR5 is nothing new. Why you''re only finding the answer now is because you''ve been channeling all your energies towards denialist views.

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Posted by: Confusing | 2012/04/29

And top dollar, there are those who transmit the virus without them ever testing positive! We''ll never have all the answers which is why they are failling to get a cure for us. How many hiv strains are there? Its a mysterious disease/virus. How come some folks die so quickly? I would love to find out what my Cd4 was before "  so called infection" . Guys are we really infected or like Brendan has been advocating that dis tests are just a bull shit? Sometimes i wonder? Do all negative folks have an undetactable vl or mayb we''ll find that its possible for them to have a detectable vl. Its confusing

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Posted by: Brendan | 2012/04/29

Hey Jozi, go search CCR5 delta 32. I think this is the answer why my ex has never ever and probably will never ever be Hiv positive. Although I have just found this out and yet to speak to my doc about it, I can rest now. I accept that I am infected and that my ex and children are not.

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Posted by: Jozi | 2012/04/29

Brandan, I''m also in a similar situation my partner of eight yrs tests negative whiles I''m testing positive.
I know there are HIV ELITES(people who do not get infected with HIV but they are very few) and also slow progressors. I think your question should be along those lines.

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Posted by: Brendan | 2012/04/29

I may have found the answer I''ve been looking for. It''s called CCR5 delta 32.

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Posted by: Brendan | 2012/04/29

Denialism is pseudo-science. I am asking for empirical reasons why some people who have had repeated exposure over many years never become positive. And most importantly, what can we learn from them and/or our methods of testing? I am bewildered at how such a question relegates me to the denialist loony camp.

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Posted by: No more | 2012/04/28

Teak was correct calling you a denialist. The sooner you start accepting your hiv status and looking after yourself without those questions the better. Why do some people get cancer, some die from just flu, some live with Tb patients but they never test positive? Brendan please change your ideas or else you will soon go 6 feet down the grave. Or else consider going into medical research to get your answers

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